Riza Karabasan
Internationale
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Post by Riza Karabasan on Apr 21, 2009 3:58:28 GMT 3
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Riza Karabasan
Internationale
I Love Invisible Pink Unicorns.
Posts: 139
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Post by Riza Karabasan on Apr 21, 2009 7:23:12 GMT 3
Also I don't agree on the issue of being admin. Everyone should have the equal rights to create something in forum, but we should mutually agree on the issues of forum.
Other than that, we can elect the one's who are responsible for particular assignments, but I strongly believe that everyone should be an admin.
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maksim
Peoples' Commissar
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Post by maksim on Apr 21, 2009 7:38:23 GMT 3
As I have now posted on the Internationale and your Internationale forums, you are going ahead with undiscussed plans! The so-called "old" internationale still has a lot of registered parties, not to mention the historical and influential significance it plays in the eRepublik community. If you're going to make a new forum, without the approval of the old Internationale, you're going to be splitting the international communist movement in half.
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maksim
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Post by maksim on Apr 21, 2009 7:44:08 GMT 3
First of all, why are we discussing this topic on a party forum? There's a lot of people that aren't members of the CPSU who read the Internationale forums. You should have started this topic there.
As I posted on the Internationale, we're waiting for Manifesto to give us the full admin rights so we can begin applying changes to each respective section. We have already planned to start using the Cominterns (Internationale's official organization) owned newspaper, L'Internationale to start publishing articles. We have also collected some money on the account only to be given to the respective parties.
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Riza Karabasan
Internationale
I Love Invisible Pink Unicorns.
Posts: 139
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Post by Riza Karabasan on Apr 21, 2009 8:19:54 GMT 3
Who will decide whether someone will be admin or not?
We need a quick way to interact, and we need the old forum to be ready quickly. If not, we should go for the new forum...
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Post by Eternal Winter on Apr 21, 2009 8:34:21 GMT 3
Why would you have everyone be an admin?
its the equivalent of everyone having a phd... whats the use of wasting 8 years of college if everyone else has it?
Just make 1 admin and have them do everything. Besides who else is joining you in this? I certainly had no idea about it. Not to mention there probably isnt any use to making a new Internationale if were going to combine the Internationale with the cpsu forum in a new forum entirely?
Idk but I have no idea what you guys are doing.
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Riza Karabasan
Internationale
I Love Invisible Pink Unicorns.
Posts: 139
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Post by Riza Karabasan on Apr 21, 2009 11:03:55 GMT 3
Well, there are a lot of people messaging me in game, because I proposed this idea not knowing about the other internationale. Then Anatol informed me about the other internationale, so I tried to reach someone who knows the deal.
The old forum looks really dead, and other contributors would like to open a new forum, that's why I created a new forum. But if there will be enough online admins, I am willing to re-organize the old website too.
But it should be active!
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Post by Heymans on Apr 21, 2009 14:05:41 GMT 3
Yeah really. What the fiddle?
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maksim
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Post by maksim on Apr 21, 2009 15:23:01 GMT 3
Admins should be elected by the members in order to see who the members trust. Admins should not have any rights whatsoever, except to carry out what the Internationale decides. If we want a new board, sure, let's put up a poll, do we want someone evicted? Let's put up a poll.
As I have stated now countless times, I am waiting for Manifesto to give us full admin rights so we can finally change anything we want. This includes giving other people admin rights. If Manifesto fails to produce an answer, we should definetly go to the new Internationale.
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Riza Karabasan
Internationale
I Love Invisible Pink Unicorns.
Posts: 139
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Post by Riza Karabasan on Apr 21, 2009 20:33:02 GMT 3
I am okay with that, if we clean the old internationale, make a new skin and shape up the boards, of course we should stay there.
Everyone to be admin would symbolize the equality, why not?
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maksim
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Post by maksim on Apr 21, 2009 21:03:08 GMT 3
Giving everyone admin is like giving everyone the password to the GOSPLAN communes. There is absolutely no point in giving everyone admin, seeing as all they have to do is follow a protocol.
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Post by Anatoliovich on Apr 21, 2009 22:07:18 GMT 3
Everyone an admin? I never even heard of this. As much as it symbolizes anything, it's really not a good idea from a website-managing standpoint or from a political standpoint. You can't do it and it's only adding to some sort of twisted Anarchy. In short, not a good idea. No. Stop what you're doing now please until everything can be figured out. Admins need to be elected, end of story, and at the very least we need to follow the more experienced.
The new website itself, I'm already seeing it as not a good idea and would rather return to the old Internationale. First off, you say you're not splitting the Internationale, but while you discuss here, you still continue your everyday-actions on the other forum. You need to cease immediately. This is simply getting blown out of proportion.
There is no rush to make this, but there is time to be used and organization to be done. If you go too fast you're going to miss something vital and it'll end pretty fast.
My opinion and my suggestion... No "New Site" anymore. It's not going to work with such administrative policies. You're making everything too easy to hack into and attack. Cease the work on that website now so this discussion can end timely and we can continue TOGETHER on the website which has been forged through (in a sense) sweat, blood, and tears.
Just really, this babbling and stubbornness is slowing us down. Send everyone you know to the old Internationale website, and especially stop the discussions on the eRepublik forum. It's like standing on a busy street naked. Good for getting attention, but not for some kind of conflict which is being slapped together and built over here.
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maksim
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Post by maksim on Apr 21, 2009 22:15:27 GMT 3
Riza, you're not the first one who feels the responsibility to take action. I did the same thing when I came to eRepublik and CPSU and heard my fair share of criticism. Your enthusiasm is great, don't give up under any circumstances! The attention you have drawn from the so to say, newbies is great, but from the political arena you may have confused the revolutionaries to state the worst thing.
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Riza Karabasan
Internationale
I Love Invisible Pink Unicorns.
Posts: 139
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Post by Riza Karabasan on Apr 22, 2009 0:11:33 GMT 3
I stop the effort of opening a new forum of course, but contact Manifesto and let's get going.
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maksim
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Post by maksim on Apr 22, 2009 0:26:36 GMT 3
I'm not sure what he's busy with. Most likely school.
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