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Post by Ninyel on Jul 19, 2009 4:45:28 GMT 3
What's our current stance on the new World War? Should we be defending the capitalist eUSA from the imperialist might of eRussia? I notice people are moving to Russia in order to take the fight to the US, so this is an important question for us. In my opinion, just like the vast majority of state v state wars, these are all just imperialist invasions by the PEACE alliance against the broken ATLANTIS. If we take a leaf from real world history, the Bolsheviks stood firmly against the First World War as meaninglessly destructive and deluding. Of course, this is eRepublik, where no-one dies or suffers, and war is just fun competition between groups of players (if perhaps very nationalistic). But should Communism's real-world stance against Imperialism prevail to show us in our deserving, positive light? Lastly, I quote Maksim on a hypothetical war which has now come true: We should supply the American resistance force with all our weapons and gifts, if that is the case. We are still anti-imperialistic. Even if the U.S invaded us doesn't mean we have to occupy them in return. Comments and opinions everyone! |
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Post by Eternal Winter on Jul 19, 2009 10:40:22 GMT 3
I say we stay out of it.
Why defend capitalists in general? Our business is to neither be imperialistic or capitalistic.
We can serve both purposes by not choosing any side in this war.
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Post by maksim on Jul 19, 2009 15:26:42 GMT 3
If they succeed in annexing eUSA, the international communist movement will take a deep hit from it. It's counter-revolutionary to fight against revolutionaries.
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Post by Ninyel on Jul 20, 2009 8:20:04 GMT 3
If they succeed in annexing eUSA, the international communist movement will take a deep hit from it. It's counter-revolutionary to fight against revolutionaries. I don't understand why, which might be because I've never actually seen what happens with an annexation  . The eUSA is controlled by the 'Worker's Party', but they seem pretty Social Democratic, and therefore Capitalist. We do have the Socialist Freedom Party there, which are a minor party, setting up communes apparantly, but I'm not sure how the eUSA being carved up would affect that strategy. Being an American under an American capitalist is pretty much the same as being an American under a PEACE capitalist. Of course the American people have the right to self-determination, but I don't think we should ally with their capitalist rulers to help them with this goal. |
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Post by Riza Karabasan on Jul 20, 2009 12:42:56 GMT 3
No need for intervention, just use them all for training wars, that's all.
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Post by maksim on Jul 20, 2009 15:39:06 GMT 3
If the SFP looses its regions to let's say, eRussia, they will loose their money aswell. They're going to have to exchange their dollars to RUB which is going to be a catastrophe. This, will directly hit the SFP and their communes and this way hit this organization.
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Post by Ninyel on Jul 21, 2009 5:30:44 GMT 3
I guess we should just fight without guns and hope for the best . |
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Post by chantymalo on Jul 21, 2009 19:50:13 GMT 3
I am personally fighting against eUSA with the best weapons I can buy and dealing as much damage as possible. This is a payback for eUSA almost whipping eMexico from existence during the rule of UncleSam in what was called by eUSA forces "Operation: Taco Bell". Only with the intervention of PEACE and specially ePortugal, was eMexico saved.
The time will come to bring down PEACE, from inside.
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Post by maksim on Jul 21, 2009 20:07:16 GMT 3
Just because the imperialist over-class, also known as the bourgeoise decides to command their national army against another national army doesn't give the victim ecountry the rights to attack back. That's nationalistic. We're fighting a class struggle against the bourgeoise, with the proletariat (no matter what ecountry).
What you're doing is being patriotic, which is nowhere near Socialism.
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Post by Eternal Winter on Jul 21, 2009 22:02:14 GMT 3
Eh, I wouldn't dwell into it too much.
I think we should focus on our party and trying to build us up again like CPSE or RRF status. I'll do my best to become more active and help around here, but with college coming around, it will likely become more of a challenge.
I'll do what I can though. We just need more of an identity for our party, rather than for our own nation.
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Post by Anežka on Jul 23, 2009 14:38:54 GMT 3
Well, I think there is a point in Maksim's words. I came to eRussia to fight against the yankee imperialism, but after reading a history I must admit - everything is not that simple. People have to participate in a battle to improve their rank and get some XP.. so perhaps everyone has to decide for himself where to fight.. or train without guns, as Ninyel suggested.  |
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Post by Ninyel on Jul 24, 2009 2:32:12 GMT 3
When eNorth Korea invaded Russian soil, I was very tempted to splash out on guns and go crazy on those goat-people  . But I didn't give in to patriotism, at least not that day >.>. I think eRussia should take it's aggression to the Imperialist puppets who are using it as a human shield - Iran and Indonesia. THAT would be anti-Imperialist, and we would get our resource-rich regions back, and eRussia would be whole again! |
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We should supply the American resistance force with all our weapons and gifts, if that is the case. We are still anti-imperialistic. Even if the U.S invaded us doesn't mean we have to occupy them in return.
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